Ian's done it again. I've come to admire his style of blogging-outside-of-the-box.
Over the past months, a number of bloggers have commented on the notion of managed services in the world of identity management, and speculations around customer attitudes towards it due to security/privacy concerns, as well as from a process perspective. Ian decided to cut through all of the speculation, and put together a survey on managed identity services aimed towards clients, in order to capture a sampling of actual client feedback. Brilliant.
I immediately saw the value in this, and decided to reach out to Ian in order to see how Identropy could help out. Ultimately, we decided that a simple giveaway might spur user participation, but agreed on keeping the marketing mumbo jumbo to a minimum at the same time. This is about getting clients involved in our discussions, reporting on the findings and hopefully initiating more practical conversations around the topic in the community. I'm very excited about working with Ian, and he has turned out a very well put together survey.
A last note: This survey is geared towards actual customers rather than vendors or integrators. If you are in touch with customers who have an identity infrastructure in place, please forward them this link ( http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/68286/ian-yips-managed-identity-services-survey ) if they want to participate. They do NOT have to provide any personal information if they do not want to. Our only interest is assessing attitudes out in the marketplace towards this notion, and the wider the participation, the better the data Ian gets to report on.
Friday, September 19, 2008
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Is WAM Complex?
Jeff Bohren responded to my post on Symplified yesterday, stating that although he agreed that most WAM solutions are complex, the OpenNetwork/BMC (now Symphony) solution doesn't fit that mold.
Admittedly, I don't have experience with the BMC solution, but Jeff makes a good case for its simplicity:
A few questions, (pardon my ignorance). What if apps want to query policy information (for example, does this user have access to that resource)? Do they query AD directly? Might that not get complicated if there are a complex array of rules to crunch through? Some environments seek a web services based API rather than the (typical) java API. Who stands that up? What about the admin console? Who manages that? Also, doesn't agent management become a headache? Keeping up with different web server versions, and handling upgrades could cause admin overhead. I agree that the solution sounds easier, but for an admin with a mediocre skill set, it seems that it would prove challenging. I'd love to hear your thoughts/real life experiences.
My experience falls more in the cleartrust/siteminder/oam realm, and clients constantly complain about maintenance. Here is an example. Some years back, a company sought an access management solution, found one, bought it and contracted a consulting firm to implement it. They did, and left them with documentation just as any good firm would. Years later, policies required updating, certs started expiring, web services API was requested, redundancy was removed/neglected, and general failures became more frequent. I rummaged through old docs, and found a diagram from existing documentation (sanitized).
Besides the components shown, there was a BEA server that hosted the management interface, as well as a web services wrapper for the WAM API, and of course, agents on each web server. The infrastructure also included a CA used exclusively for the WAM environment (don't ask), and was therefore considered part of the same admin burden.
The client wasn't especially tech savvy, and explaining the difference between an authorization server, dispatcher, entitlements server, and how to ensure they were appropriately set up in failover mode, and how to troubleshoot when specific problems arose wasn't particularly easy. Most importantly, it wasn't the client's "fault" - they had a host of other applications they were tagged with managing (including a metadirectory, provisioning solution, security event management, directory services, etc.), and handling a WAM solution was just another component waiting to be neglected.
I don't think that this is an unusual scenario. Now even if the complexity level were cut in half, it's still quite a bit of infrastructure to handle for an admin staff that is already overburdened. Now imagine someone offers all of this in a hosted model, and a pretty appliance (or 2) in your infrastructure that you really don't have to worry about managing...
Admittedly, I don't have experience with the BMC solution, but Jeff makes a good case for its simplicity:
(it) could be deployed with nothing more than AD and access control agents on each web server. The access control agents served as both a PEP and PDP. No policy servers, APIs, or proxy servers required. The same accounts used for intranet login could be used for web access control and the policies could be expressed in terms of AD security groups.
A few questions, (pardon my ignorance). What if apps want to query policy information (for example, does this user have access to that resource)? Do they query AD directly? Might that not get complicated if there are a complex array of rules to crunch through? Some environments seek a web services based API rather than the (typical) java API. Who stands that up? What about the admin console? Who manages that? Also, doesn't agent management become a headache? Keeping up with different web server versions, and handling upgrades could cause admin overhead. I agree that the solution sounds easier, but for an admin with a mediocre skill set, it seems that it would prove challenging. I'd love to hear your thoughts/real life experiences.
My experience falls more in the cleartrust/siteminder/oam realm, and clients constantly complain about maintenance. Here is an example. Some years back, a company sought an access management solution, found one, bought it and contracted a consulting firm to implement it. They did, and left them with documentation just as any good firm would. Years later, policies required updating, certs started expiring, web services API was requested, redundancy was removed/neglected, and general failures became more frequent. I rummaged through old docs, and found a diagram from existing documentation (sanitized).
Besides the components shown, there was a BEA server that hosted the management interface, as well as a web services wrapper for the WAM API, and of course, agents on each web server. The infrastructure also included a CA used exclusively for the WAM environment (don't ask), and was therefore considered part of the same admin burden.
The client wasn't especially tech savvy, and explaining the difference between an authorization server, dispatcher, entitlements server, and how to ensure they were appropriately set up in failover mode, and how to troubleshoot when specific problems arose wasn't particularly easy. Most importantly, it wasn't the client's "fault" - they had a host of other applications they were tagged with managing (including a metadirectory, provisioning solution, security event management, directory services, etc.), and handling a WAM solution was just another component waiting to be neglected.
I don't think that this is an unusual scenario. Now even if the complexity level were cut in half, it's still quite a bit of infrastructure to handle for an admin staff that is already overburdened. Now imagine someone offers all of this in a hosted model, and a pretty appliance (or 2) in your infrastructure that you really don't have to worry about managing...
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Monday, September 15, 2008
My Latest IdM Crush
At DIDW, I got a chance to sit down and chat with Eric Olden, CEO of Symplified. Symplified brings Web Access Management into the SaaS world. Their approach resonated with me immediately.
A few clients we had just been dealing with over the past weeks had "fires" that needed containing. For one client, after 48 hours of dispatching consultants, phone calls to support, and just hard core technical work, all was well...for the time being. Soon after, another client had a similar situation. Things were going down all over the place, and no one knew why. After significant investigative work, the culprits were found and dealt with. But the real culprit wasn't a person or an inopportune config change. The real underlying problem was a complex (and perhaps antiquated) IdM infrastructure put in place by a team of consultants years ago coupled with an IT team that didn't provide the identity management infrastructure the appropriate level of care and feeding. Unfortunately, this toxic combination is not uncommon in mid market enterprises.
Enter Symplified. Anyone who knows idenity knows that WAM infrastructures are rather complex. Agents, proxy servers, APIs, Policy Servers and a host of other moving parts. Eric walked me through Symplified's approach to "symplifying" (get it? i just did) this complexity. Think of a proxy based WAM architecture. Symplified provides an "identity router", which is an appliance dropped in the client's infrastructure that acts as the proxy. All traffic to protected apps get routed through the identity router, which acts as the policy decision point as well as the policy enforcement point. Identity data can be consumed from your existing identity stores. For example, you could have the router point to AD to pick up users, but policy information is stored in the router itself. So where does the SaaS component fit in? The admin interface is hosted in Symplified's SAS 70 Type II data center and allows access policies to be defined. Once completed, the policies can be pushed down to the identity router in the client environment. Symplified also provides a slick option to deliver the identity router as a virtual appliance. They call it the GTV form factor, and it can run in an existing ESX environment.
The last word: the client has less infrastructure to manage. Compare this to the number of components in your typical agent based WAM solution, and the value Symplified is providing should be pretty obvious.
Monday, September 08, 2008
The VDS Use Case
I attended Radiant Logic's workshop today at DIDW. An interesting tidbit that they shared with us was that a whopping 90% of field usage of virtual directories today are around solving authentication problems.
Given all the wonderful use cases that virtual directories solve, I'm a bit surprised the lopsided real world usage. For folks in this space, is this what you're seeing as well?
Given all the wonderful use cases that virtual directories solve, I'm a bit surprised the lopsided real world usage. For folks in this space, is this what you're seeing as well?
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